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Schome => Introductions => : Alice SParker January 17, 2008, 02:04:29 PM

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: Alice SParker January 17, 2008, 02:04:29 PM
Hello to everybody! I am interested in how people communicate in different modalities and experience a sense of presence. Looking forward to working with you all  :)
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: Fox Phlox January 17, 2008, 02:05:24 PM
Hi Alice - could you say more about presence? I'm guessing it's a term which will be new to some people on the forum. Fox
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: Alice SParker January 17, 2008, 02:24:53 PM
Of course.. Well, it depends on how much of it you would want :)
To keep it short, I would take it as physical presence (the degree you feel you are actually in an environment) and the social presence (the degree you feel you are involved in the communication taking place and are part of a community). My interest lies in the latter and how it could be related to language learning.
 
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: PeterT January 17, 2008, 02:51:30 PM
Hi Alice. The whole thing about presence - and the degree to which folk feel part of the community - and more importantly how we help folk to feel part of the community is really important. Indeed I have suggested that we should have a strand of activity that is really all about ensuring that we are developing our 'skills' (or is it ethos) to ensure this happens - check out the Community workshops entry on this page (http://schome.open.ac.uk/wikiworks/index.php/SPP_Phase_3_activities) - maybe you would like organise some sessions for us on this - or better still take a lead on organising this element of the baseline activity?  ???
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: Alice SParker January 18, 2008, 10:46:58 AM
Hi PeterT! I had a look on the page and all the activities are very stimulating!
And I would be willing to be involved in the Community Workshops - discussions, role-plays, problem solving situations could be organised to make folk aware of individual differences, the particular features the environment brings on to communication, how they feel in certain communicative activities and how best to move on with the community. I imagine the cultural aspects would become more prominant with the participation of the US groups. This is exciting!
PS. Being a newbee, a call for buddies! Anybody else interested? :)
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: RoughBounds January 18, 2008, 10:51:46 AM
Sounds very interesting Alice. I am quite interested in online forums and VR's as knowable social realities. Lots of assumptions are made within IT about communities and I look forward to having a chat with you sometime.

I am kinda new myself so I am prob not qualified to buddy you
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: Alice SParker January 18, 2008, 11:12:07 AM
I agree that they are 'social realities' - the way they have real affects on people with transfer of experiences and skills. Though I am not sure about 'knowable' (that you can research? or that the insiders know about the realities?)??
It would be a very interesting chat!
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: Jpskater777 Schomer January 19, 2008, 04:23:20 PM
hi and welcome to schome  :)
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: Trixxiee Schomer January 19, 2008, 05:16:04 PM
Hi, welcome to schome :)
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: An¡mus January 19, 2008, 07:30:35 PM

Hello :)
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: Kali Schomer January 19, 2008, 11:09:08 PM
Hey.

Welcome to Schome  :)
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: Miss. Vibia January 20, 2008, 07:51:20 PM
Hi, welcome to Schome.  :)
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: Yati January 20, 2008, 08:51:41 PM
Very interesting topic. The concept of 'presence', particularly when it applies to virtual world is confusing,and so  as the term 'community'.  As far as the concept of 'presence' is concerned (Short et al, 1976) regard social presence ( of course presense has to be social) as the degree of salience of the other person in the (mediated) interaction, and Thurlow et el 2005, consider presence as 'the level of interpersonal contact and feeling of intimacy, and sense of belonging to the community. I think, when we talk about 'presense' in the virtual world,  presence in mediated communicaiton like this is a factor imfluenced by  both the medium and the participants' sense of awareness of the presence of 'real' interational partner(s). I think this is a community formed not becaus ewe all share same culture, social rules, norms, etc, but because we have 'common goal(s), i.e. learning', and sharing ideas. Learning to inhabit.

Yati
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: An¡mus January 20, 2008, 09:34:51 PM

Interesting. Would you say that the schome staffs goals are different from ours? I am sure we differ at that point to a certain extent, although the staff are certainly learning from us and us from them, their goals are to 'teach' us, promote schome and develop skills of interaction with different age groups
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: Alice SParker January 20, 2008, 10:46:06 PM
Animus-being a newbee, it will take time for me to learn the roles of people involved :) maybe most have different views of them?   ???

Thanks for your comments Yati! I agree, though I think presence does not have to be social, does it? Do you feel immersed in the environment in SL and forget about the real life - to some extent of course, let's say while creating/designing something even when you are alone? Himm, then can we say presence is like a state of not feeling alone & lonely??  ::)

One more question: if it is "the participants' sense of awareness of the presence of 'real' interational partner(s)", can we talk about presence (or perceived presence??) if you are talking to a chat bot?  ;)
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: Tara SParker January 21, 2008, 09:07:35 AM
This is very interesting; what about absent presence, you know when you are alone but you know people are there. I think msn can do this by having chat windows open whilst doing something other than chatting. Does schome work like this?

Alternatively what about being present but absent? When people are there but perhaps they are not really listening. Does this happen in schome, I know it deos in real life?

I think both of these have an impact on loneliness and am intrigued about how they pan out in schome.

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: Topper Schomer January 21, 2008, 01:20:15 PM
Animus-being a newbee, it will take time for me to learn the roles of people involved :) maybe most have different views of them?   ???

Thanks for your comments Yati! I agree, though I think presence does not have to be social, does it? Do you feel immersed in the environment in SL and forget about the real life - to some extent of course, let's say while creating/designing something even when you are alone? Himm, then can we say presence is like a state of not feeling alone & lonely??  ::)

One more question: if it is "the participants' sense of awareness of the presence of 'real' interational partner(s)", can we talk about presence (or perceived presence??) if you are talking to a chat bot?  ;)


Amimus or faz in world :)

Hi and welcome

Topper
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: PeterT January 22, 2008, 07:00:05 AM
This is very interesting; what about absent presence, you know when you are alone but you know people are there. I think msn can do this by having chat windows open whilst doing something other than chatting. Does schome work like this?

Alternatively what about being present but absent? When people are there but perhaps they are not really listening. Does this happen in schome, I know it deos in real life?

I think both of these have an impact on loneliness and am intrigued about how they pan out in schome.

Point of clarification: schome doesn't yet exist - it will be the education system for the information age - which we are currently working on developing visions for. Schome will definitely need to have physical spaces ... find out more about schome ... (http://schome.open.ac.uk/wikiworks/index.php/Schome)

Schome Park (http://schome.open.ac.uk/wikiworks/index.php/The_Schome_Park_bliki) is an island in the Teen Grid of Second Life, which we are using within the Schome Park Project. The Schome Park Project (http://schome.open.ac.uk/wikiworks/index.php/Schome_Park) has a number of 'official' aims - and indeed, as noted elsewhere, no doubt different members of the community have different aims (reasons for taking part) - official aims include:

Peter (the pedant)
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: Tara SParker January 22, 2008, 09:58:09 AM
Point taken! What would the the term for the learning community as it is now. I imagine it would encompass both the people and the space?

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: PeterT January 22, 2008, 03:28:32 PM
Point taken! What would the the term for the learning community as it is now. I imagine it would encompass both the people and the space?



Hmm - probably more than one community - cos there are folk who have access to the Wiki and Forum (but not Schome Park) and there are those who have access to the wiki, forum and Schome Park.

I tend to think of the former group as the Schommunity and the latter group (which is a subset of the Schommunity) as the Schome Park Community.

We used to refer to the Schome Park Community members as SParkers - before we introduced the second name SParker for adults in Schome Park. All very confusing ...  ::)
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: Tara SParker January 22, 2008, 06:51:55 PM


We used to refer to the Schome Park Community members as SParkers - before we introduced the second name SParker for adults in Schome Park. All very confusing ...  ::)

Now that explains some of the postings. Slowly it might be making sense....