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Messy Wiki

I agree that the wiki (and forum) are getting a bit out of hand - it's great that you are making constructive suggestions about how we should sort it out - but to be honest I don't understand how to do what you have suggested -
  • how do you put the Personal Pages in the User: namespace?
  • how do you create a subpage -
sorry I'm not very good at this techy stuff PeterT 13:04, 25 July 2007 (BST)
I think she means that all the things in it should be moved to the user namespace, with subpages. And, to make subpages, you just put the page, then another '/' then the subpage name - for example, User:Katharine Berry/SPD Viewer is a subpage of this page. --Decimus 13:36, 25 July 2007 (BST)
I mean what Decimus said. For instance, the assorted "Curls <something>" pages around (of which there are over 15) should be moved to subpages of User:Curls, e.g. User:Curls/Music, User:Curls/Pictures, etc. Subpages have the advantage of having a link back to their parent automatically.
For another example, see
Told you I was obsessed with organisation. :p - Katharine Schomer 14:56, 25 July 2007 (BST)'
Hi Katharine. Good point. There are lots of those little pages knocking around and I've read them all <groan>. The ones which are absolutely, totally and unarguably pointless do get deleted, but I tend not to mess with people's personal pages. I categorise them, I put in a note if I think they're infringing copyright or revealing too much personal info, otherwise I let them be. Fox 20:30, 27 July 2007 (BST)
It's an interesting issue, watching how other people arrange their pages. Well we certainly will like having you around if you love organisation and are up for helping out!! I'm sure it would be fine for you to comment on people's pages, Katharine, if you wanted to offer advice on other ways to arrange the pages. Be aware that we've got a wide range of Schome participants though, some of whom are primary school age and some who have never used wikis before, so please tread gently and post politely, don't assume they are highly technically competent (or over aged 10...). Thanks! --Mark Sparker 11:47, 28 July 2007 (BST)
I didn't actually know that by putting User:Trixxiee Schomer/Sub-Page, it would create a sub-page in that way. It would certainly make it easier for navigation, although I have put links to all my personal pages at the top of each one to try and stop it being so complicated. Would it be too complicated to move everyone's personal pages to under the user namespace? - Trixxiee 12:25, 28 July 2007 (BST)
It wouldn't be hard - it's just that people are likely to object if their pages start moving around, and are very likely to continue creating pages in the wrong place unless told to do otherwise.
Pages under the user namespace are all supposed to be names of people - although subpages of user pages are perfectly valid, and the standard approach to personal pages when using MediaWiki.
If people give permission for their pages to be moved, it's easy to move them. Easier to ask people to do it themselves though... *points at "move" tab at the top.* - Katharine Schomer 12:32, 28 July 2007 (BST)

re: upgrading wiki

We're in agreement that the wiki needs to be upgraded - this has been raised for different reasons in a staff meeting. Unfortunately we are tied into when the Open University can give us technician time to do it, which means probably October. A bit of a pain but these are the guys who are paying for the project so we have to follow their system: none of the staff that you've come across have access rights to the university servers. I'm also hoping this might mean other software upgrades and more new tools coming online. Yes we know it's just a couple of hours work but the Open Uni quite rightly doesn't give out access permissions to more than a few staff, to minimise security issues, knock on effects of badly installed software, etc. --Mgaved 16:11, 5 August 2007 (BST)

It's actually quite difficult - you're currently running an ancient (and no longer supported) version of PHP, which new versions of the wiki software don't support. And updating that risks breaking other old things, etc. This is why I run my own server. :p - Katharine Schomer 16:23, 5 August 2007 (BST)
Indeed, the dependencies issue is one of the reason I think it will take the backend techs a little longer to get round to updating everything. I also run my own servers for private projects. Unfortunately university projects tend to move a little slower in order to satisfy the organisation, different territory from personal projects. Also being the summer holiday period a lot of the staff are taking leave so the department is on limited resources till autumn. But at least this way we can go on holiday occasionally, and not worry about the servers being compromised :-) - everything is running patched properly, behind the firewalls, connected to UPS, backed up nightly etc.... that's why we let the Open Uni run the schome servers :-) Better than coming back from a week's holiday to find a hundred users screaming blue murder that the system went down the day we left! Thanks for your patience.... --Mgaved 09:58, 8 August 2007 (BST)

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I have removed some text from the user page as I am concerned it breaks the Schome Acceptable Use Policy. This section of the home page contained direct criticism by Katharine of other members of schome and critical responses back from one of the members. I do not consider this appropriate within the bounds of the Schome educational project. If you feel this is not fair and wish to discuss the matter further, please contact the director of the project, Peter Twining, at

kind regards, Mark Sparker --Mgaved 21:19, 10 September 2007 (BST)

I have emailed him. I requested he delete my account and all wiki pages under my name. - Katharine Berry 21:45, 10 September 2007 (BST)

And one of the staff accepted. --Marsbar9 Schomer 18:01, 11 September 2007 (BST)

yes that is fine moving some of my page alexrider