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Re: The definition of Second Life
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2008, 09:36:13 PM »
Writing the oxford english dictionary must be fun...  :P
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Re: The definition of Second Life
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2008, 09:58:53 PM »
Right, i'll get back to you on this...
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Re: The definition of Second Life
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2008, 12:25:25 PM »
Well, can't snap him out of it, but I think I know how to solve it;

Can anyone give me the definition of a 'game' regardless of it's type?
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Re: The definition of Second Life
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2008, 01:26:22 PM »
According to the online Oxford English Dictionary:

I. 1. Amusement, delight, fun, mirth, sport. Often in game and glee, game and play, joy and game; also game and solace. upon her game: in fun. no game = ‘no fun’. Obs. exc. dial.

2.    a. Jest, as opposed to earnest. Also (with a), a joke or jest. Obs. exc. as in b.
b. Phr. to make a) game of (also on): to make fun of, jest at, turn into ridicule. to make game (to be): to pretend for fun (rare).
c. An object of ridicule, laughing-stock. Also laughing game. Obs.

3. a. An amusement, diversion, pastime. Also collect., play, diversion. at game: at play.
b. spec. Amorous sport or play, now esp. signifying sexual intercourse.
c. colloq. An amusing incident; a piece of fun; a ‘lark’.

4. a. A diversion of the nature of a contest, played according to rules, and displaying in the result the superiority either in skill, strength, or good fortune of the winner or winners. For round, square game, see ROUND, SQUARE. at game: at play.

b. Gr. and Rom. Antiq. Usually pl. (= L. ludi): Athletic, dramatic, and musical contests; gladiatorial and other shows.

c. the game: the proper method of playing; correct play. lit. and fig. (See also PLAY v. 16b.)

d. pl. In Scotland, a number of contests in athletics, piping, and dancing held esp. in various Highland centres; a meeting for the purpose of holding such contests; freq. in Highland games.

e. pl. Athletics or sports as organized in a school, college, etc. Freq. attrib. (see sense 16c).

f. The Game: a form of charades.

5. fig.    a. A proceeding, scheme, intrigue, undertaking, followed up like a game. So often, to play a losing, a waiting game. {dag}to make a saving game of it: to retrieve one's losses in the end. Colloq. phr. two can play at that game: others can act in a similar way (usu. said as a threat of retaliation for unfair dealing).

b. A person's policy or plan of action; esp. in such jocular phrases as that's your little game! the same old game! Also, the course best suited to one's interests.

c. to play the game of: to act so as to secure the advantage or interest of.

d. pl. ‘Dodges’, tricks.

e. the game: thieving, housebreaking; freq. in phr. on the game. Thieves' slang.

f. the game: prostitution; usu. in phr. on the game. (Cf. quot. 1606 for sense 3b above.) slang.

6. a. A definite portion of play in any ‘game’ (sense 4), terminated by the victory of one side, or the recognition that no victory can be gained; ‘a match at play’ (J.).
 
b. Phrases (often used fig.). the game is up, is over = is lost. to force the game (see FORCE v.1 3c and 5). {dag}to play the whole game (see quot. 1732). {dag}out of one's game: not playing. to have the game out: to play it to the end. game and game: one game scored to each side. game, set, and match, a complete and decisive victory (from the use in Lawn Tennis).

c. with qualifying adj. (to play) a good, a poor, etc. game: to be a skilful player (or the contrary). {dag}a great, small, high, or low game: indicating the magnitude of the stakes played for.

d. Position or advantage in play.

e. The course or event of a game. Also fig.


f. A person's performance in a particular game; the normal standard of one's play; to be on (or off) one's game, to be playing well (or badly); to be in (or out of) form. Cf. quot. 1885 under sense 6c above.

7. The winning position, the victory in a contest, the mastery (in early use the best game). Also, the prize contended for. Obs.

8. In various applications.    a. A ‘set’ of players.    b. A HAND at cards.    c. pl. In trade use: The apparatus for playing particular games.    d. The number of points required for winning.    e. The state of the game.    f. In certain card games: The possession, at the end of a game, of the largest number of pips, for which the player scores one or more points.    g. within, out of (one's) game: within, out of one's range of play (in Croquet, etc.).

h. Chess.    (i) A method of play, esp. a series of initial moves;  (ii) A sequence of moves forming a recognized stage in the play, esp. in end-game

9. Sport derived from the chase. dog of game: one used in hunting or sporting. to be in game: to be engaged in the chase. Obs.

10. a. The object of the chase; the animal or animals hunted.

 b. transf. and fig. An object of pursuit; also, an object in view. fair game: a legitimate object of pursuit, attack, etc.; also forbidden game.

11. collect.    a. Wild animals or birds such as are pursued, caught or killed in the chase.

b. The flesh of such animals used for food.

c. jocularly, of vermin.

d. slang.

12. A flock or herd of animals kept for pleasure. Obs. exc. in a game of swans.

13. cock of the game

14. The characteristics of a game-fowl; spirit for fighting, pluck, endurance. Also predicatively, thorough game, all game, said of a person possessed of these qualities.


15. Short for game-fowl. In quots. collect. with plural concord.

16. a. simple attrib. (chiefly in sense 11; cf. also GAME a.1), as game-beast, -bird, -country, -craft, {dag}-dog (cf. dog of game in sense 9), -drive, -land, -larder, -list, -park, -path, -pie, -pit, -pouch, -preserve, reserve, -season, -shot.

b. objective, as (senses 3 and 4) game-playing n. and adj.; game-shy adj.; (senses 10, 11) {dag}game-finder, -hunting, -preserver, -preserving, -shooting, -stealer; game-destroying adj.; (sense 11) game-dealer, -finding n. and adj.; game-proof adj.
c. attrib. and Comb. uses of the plural, esp. in sense 4e, as games-mad adj., games-mania, -master, -mistress, -room, -worship.

17. Special comb.: game-act, an Act of Parliament regulating the killing of game; game-bag, a bag for holding the game killed by a sportsman; game ball (Tennis)
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Re: The definition of Second Life
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2008, 03:02:54 PM »

How about the definitions of platform and place?

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Re: The definition of Second Life
« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2008, 08:00:47 PM »
<Wonders if Animus meant to add a  :P to that last post.>

OK - here goes. The OED defines platform as:

I. A surface or area on which something may stand, esp. a raised level surface.

1. a. An open walk or terrace, running along the top of a building or a wall. Obs.
b. Gunnery. A level area, originally on a rampart, constructed for mounting artillery. Now also: a vehicle, esp. an aeroplane

2. a. A raised level surface on which people or things can stand, usually a discrete structure intended for a particular activity or operation.
 b. spec. The horizontal base of a vehicle resting on wheels, as the bed of a railway carriage, trailer, etc.; an open portion of the floor at the end of a bus or a railway carriage.
c. A raised area running along the side of a railway track at a station, allowing passengers to get on and off trains easily.
d. A base for marine oil or gas drilling, raised on piles above the level of the sea; an offshore oil rig.
e. A high rigid diving board, usually fixed at one of several standard heights between 3 and 10 metres above the surface of the water; (also) the highboard event in a diving competition.

3. fig.
a. The ground, foundation, or basis of an action, event, calculation, condition, etc. Now also: a position achieved or situation brought about which forms the basis for further achievement.
b. A level of thought, morality, etc. Obs.
c. equal dividend platform: (in the Free and United Free Churches of Scotland) the position achieved by churches that draw an equal dividend from the sustentation fund (SUSTENTATION n. 8), as opposed to new or mission churches.

4. The area of ground occupied by a structure; the site of a group of buildings, camp, fort, etc. Obs.

5. Naut.
a. A division of the orlop deck of a man-of-war, between the cockpit and the mainmast
b. A light deck in a small boat or yacht; the cabin floor in such a vessel.

6. a. A natural or artificial terrace, a flat elevated piece of ground; a tableland, a plateau; (Physical Geogr.) a level or nearly level strip of land at the base of a cliff close to the water level; (occas.) a similar terrace elsewhere thought to have been originally formed by the sea.
b. Physical Geogr. More fully continental platform. A part of the earth's crust above the level of the ocean basins, comprising the continents and the continental shelves. Also occas.: a continental shelf.
c. Physical Geogr. A former erosion surface or plateau represented by the common surface or summit level of neighbouring hills or other land forms.
d. Geol. A part of a craton where the basement complex, elsewhere exposed as a shield, is overlain by a layer of more recent, relatively flat and undisturbed strata of a mainly sedimentary nature.

7. a. A usually temporary piece of raised flooring at one end of a hall or large space, on which a public speaker stands to address his or her audience, and on which the leaders of a meeting sit; (in extended use) a publication, broadcast, or other means by which a person can publicly express views and opinions. Also: (by metonymy) those who sit on a public stage at meetings and conferences; (hence) the body of people who hold important positions in a society, political party, etc.
 b. fig. (orig. U.S.). A basis on which people unitedly take their stand and make a public appeal; (hence) the major policy or set of policies on which a political party (or later also an individual politician) proposes to stand, as declared in electoral manifestos, conventions, etc.; spec. the policy or policies agreed by the representatives of a party assembled in convention to nominate candidates for an election. Also used of public declarations of principles, beliefs, etc., in non-political contexts.

8. Short for platform shoe

9. Aeronaut., etc. A gyroscopically stabilized mounting which is isolated from the angular motion of the craft carrying it and provides an inertial frame for the accelerometers of an inertial guidance system; (also occas.) the gyroscopes, accelerometers, and other instruments associated with this.

10. In a computer game: one of a number of solid surfaces between which characters jump or climb to progress; usu. attrib., esp. in platform game.

11. Computing. A standard system architecture; a (type of) machine and/or operating system, regarded as the base on which software applications are run.

II. A plane surface or representation.

12. A drawing, sketch, or diagram (of a structure); a plan for building; a chart, a map; = PLAN n. 2a. Obs.
 
13. Geom. A plane or two-dimensional figure; (also) a plane surface, a plane; (more generally) any surface. Obs.

III. A plan, a strategy.

14. a. A plan of action; a scheme or strategy devised to achieve concrete results; = PLAN n. 2a. Obs.
b. A plan for church government and discipline; a system of principles or doctrines, advocated by or on behalf of a religious group or society. Obs.
c. A plan or scheme of government or administration; a plan of political action. Obs.
 
15. a. A design, a concept, an idea; (something serving as) a pattern or model. Obs.
b. A written outline or sketch; a description, a synopsis. Obs.
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Re: The definition of Second Life
« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2008, 08:04:52 PM »
The noun 'place' has 19 main meanings - and many sub-meanings.

These can remain mysterious to prevent readers of this thread from dying of boredom ('Too late!' I hear you say from beyond the grave.)
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Re: The definition of Second Life
« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2008, 08:08:38 PM »
sorry Fox, but my nephew has the attention span of a gnat, that just isn't a suitble argument;

how about why Second Life 'isnt' a game, using those defintions?
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Re: The definition of Second Life
« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2008, 08:44:37 PM »
how about why Second Life 'isnt' a game
Err... What's been said before? Namely that it doesn't have any form of objective, except for ones that you set yourself (one point about that: what about games that have level creators, etc. which allow you to set up your own objectives? You'll have to work around that one. Maybe you could say that that's separate from the game)
Or something like that :P

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Re: The definition of Second Life
« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2008, 08:56:18 PM »
In most cases it is; you have to start a separate program to use it.
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Re: The definition of Second Life
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2008, 09:00:07 PM »
In most cases it is; you have to start a separate program to use it.
True. But some aren't, though I'd still consider them separate from the main game, in terms of functionality if not what program it is...

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Re: The definition of Second Life
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2008, 08:45:31 AM »
that just isn't a suitble argument;

 lol
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Re: The definition of Second Life
« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2008, 11:21:31 AM »
Well, I can't quote the mega-postings above, can I? I've got to have the mental form of strike...or smackdown, or whatever it's called......a stroke?

hmmm....
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Re: The definition of Second Life
« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2008, 11:26:32 AM »
Perhaps you should just get him to try it out?
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Re: The definition of Second Life
« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2008, 11:27:24 AM »
There are plenty of people in Second Life who call it a game, so that doesn't help. :P
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