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Schome Park Programme => Reflection and forward planning => Topic started by: PeterT on January 05, 2008, 10:41:01 AM



Title: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: PeterT on January 05, 2008, 10:41:01 AM
Ok - we need to make a fairly quick decision about the name for the new combined island ...

Current state of play:

There are two sims (regions) each of which has an official name (what Linden Labs knows it as) - Schome Park (the original island) and Schome Park II (the new island) - we cannot change these names.

We need to have a name which we can use to refer to the whole island (ie Schome Park plus Schome Park II).
In the past (when we just had one sim/region we talked about Schome Park and SPii (which were the first and second incarnations of the original island).

I have been using SPiii to refer to the combined islands - but folk tell me that this is confusing and naff.

Some suggestions that have been put forward so far include:
  • Hestian
  • Aventure
  • Danbur
  • Serpentine
  • Garnet
  • Larvik
  • Schome Alpha

 ??? So - if you have an idea for a name then suggest it ...

PS Bear in mind that just to confuse things I am also referring to different phases of the Schome Park Project (so the schome-NAGTY Pilot was Phase 1, the Becta funded bit was Phase 2, and we are about to start Phase 3).  ::)


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: PeterT on January 05, 2008, 11:27:27 AM
Actually you can change them, but you'll have to pay $50 (or is it $100?) per sim for the privilege of doing so.

I vote for "SPiii" on the basis I don't like any of those names, but don't have any better suggestions either. :P
Ah ha - in that case I vote for the following:
  • Rename Schome Park as Schome Park I
  • Call the combined island Schome Park

This has the huge advantage of not confusing folk external to the project - cos folk know that the Schome Park Project involves the use of an island called Schome Park. It would be confusing having to explain that the Schome Park Project now uses an island called SomethingNewThatHasNothingToDoWithSchomePark.

Excellent use of $100 IMHO.

If you strongly disagree then explain why ...


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Amba SParker on January 05, 2008, 11:39:33 AM
Oops! I was about to post below...

: unsent message from Amba
Actually you can change them, but you'll have to pay $50 (or is it $100?) per sim for the privilege of doing so.

I vote for "SPiii" on the basis I don't like any of those names, but don't have any better suggestions either. :P

If that's the case I would vote for changing the name of the original sim to Schome Park I and calling the combined space "Schome Park", to keep things simple and intuitive.

And now I've replied because I agree, and not because I disagree...

Anyway, I agree.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Fox Phlox on January 05, 2008, 11:48:40 AM
I almost agree.

I'd like to call the combination of islands Schome Park.
I'd like to call the island which we have all beeen on up until now 'Schome park Alpha' and the brand-new island 'Schome Park Beta'.

That gets us away from the confusion between phase one, phase two, spii, spiii and Schome Park. Peter's suggestion that we rename what we have been calling SPii as Schome Park I seems to reinforce that confusion.

It also give us a much clearer set of abbreviations when we are chatting inworld - alpha and beta would be clearer than I and II, which are easily mistyped and easily confused with the word 'I'.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Dan on January 05, 2008, 11:56:30 AM
Not 'Woopsilon Prime' then?  >:D

Ahem, seriously though, if we can rename then 'at source' it seems the right way to go.  Schome Park Alpha and Beta is neat enough, and Schome Park remains the overall land mass.



Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: An¡mus on January 05, 2008, 12:06:38 PM

What's wrong with Schome Island as a combined name?


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Spiral Schomer on January 05, 2008, 12:14:38 PM
My Suggestion


Combined Name - Schome Park

First Island - Schome Park Alpha

Second Island - Schome Park Bravo


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: An¡mus on January 05, 2008, 12:16:53 PM

No Kathy, I acctually meant island not in linden labs terminology.

Just Schome Island


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Dan on January 05, 2008, 12:40:33 PM
Well the new 'island' doesn't look as it did before xmas.  Remember though that each phase we've changed look and feel, so even if one area was an island now, it might not be in the future.  So using 'island' would likely sit at odds with the space if not now, then at some point in the future.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Marsbar9 Schomer on January 05, 2008, 12:44:51 PM
Alpha and Beta I prefer. I agree with Fox - it definately sorts out any confusion.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: An¡mus on January 05, 2008, 12:46:38 PM
Well island sounds a lot better than iii, Hestian, Aventure, Danbur, Serpentine, Garnet, Larvik or Alpha to me.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Marsbar9 Schomer on January 05, 2008, 12:48:31 PM
How long will it take Linden Labs to change the names?


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Spiral Schomer on January 05, 2008, 12:51:41 PM
Why call it beta? It's not a beta stage is it ???


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Amba SParker on January 05, 2008, 01:05:23 PM
Why call it beta? It's not a beta stage is it ???

I must say that was my initial reaction, but I put it down to my having spent many years working in the software industry  lol

To me, the name "anything beta" has strong connotations of a 'release' which is not quite out of testing! This is why I particularly liked your idea of "Bravo", but I really don't any strong feelings about what the new space is named - very happy with all of the suggestions so far.  :)


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Spiral Schomer on January 05, 2008, 01:44:33 PM
Beta would be confusing to people,


Thats why I suggested Bravo


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Fox Phlox on January 05, 2008, 01:47:50 PM
I like the idea of using the police letters alphabet and having Schome Park Alpha and Schome Park Bravo - but if we expanded any further we'd end up with Schome Park Charlie, which is downright silly.

I agree that alpha and beta do have connotations of being development versions but our islands are development versions of Schome, so that works. Also alpha and beta have overtones of mathematical notation and classical literature, which sit well with our physics and archaeology strands.

(I rather like the idea of our collection of sims becoming the Schome Archipelago - but perhaps that's a bit hard to pronounce.)


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Marsbar9 Schomer on January 05, 2008, 01:49:56 PM
Haha - I was thinking of saying something about Schomepak Charlie when Spiral first suggested Bravo, but decided not to lol

I think Alpha and Beta are better, it might sound better to the public as well, instead of  Bravo.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Achilles Schomer on January 05, 2008, 02:53:19 PM
agree with the above


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Topper Schomer on January 05, 2008, 05:17:35 PM
i think alpha bravo would be best basiclly the NATO phinic alphabet.

Topper


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Marsbar9 Schomer on January 05, 2008, 05:20:03 PM
I propose a poll!

Schome Alpha/Beta  (and in future gamma [I think?])
Schome Alpha/Bravo (and in future charlie)


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Decimus Schomer on January 05, 2008, 05:35:43 PM
I prefer the Greek letters, in order: Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Epsilon, Zeta, Eta, Theta, etc.
(not that I expect us to get as far as that :P)


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Yankee SParker on January 05, 2008, 06:09:17 PM
I think some form of "Tri" makes sense in recognition of the fact it's the third iteration...

Triad?
Triumvirate?

Or maybe Gamma?


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Spiral Schomer on January 05, 2008, 06:18:29 PM
is yankee an option there? lol



i'm not that bothered between alpha / beta or alpha / bravo

I like them both


the bravo one was just a suggestion ;]


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Yankee SParker on January 05, 2008, 06:30:18 PM
is yankee an option there? lol

Well taken! I removed that! :)


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Fox Phlox on January 05, 2008, 07:33:48 PM
If we get enough islands on the Alpha, Bravo system, we'll eventually have
Schome Park Foxtrot (yay!)
and Schome Park Yankee  :)

Though Schome Park November will be weird
Schome Park India will be confusing
and I think PeterT may have something to say on the subject of Schome Park Whisky  :o


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Miss. Vibia on January 05, 2008, 07:56:01 PM
Though Schome Park November will be weird
Schome Park India will be confusing
and I think PeterT may have something to say on the subject of Schome Park Whisky  :o

Would be interesting!  :D

I like the idea of Alpha and Beta personally.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: PeterT on January 06, 2008, 08:37:51 AM
LOL

This whole thing is an experiment - so I rather like the 'still testing' connotations of alpha beta etc (I know that the third one is not etc but you pedant).

I think we should avoid the whisky foxtrot yankee variation (for what I hope are obvious reasons - not not that I am jealous cos there couldn't be a Schome Park Ranger ...)

Seems to me we have three different approaches/options:

Option 1
  • Original island/region becomes Schome Park I
  • The new island/region remains Schome Park II
  • The combined islands (the estate) becomes Schome Park

Option 2
  • Original island/region becomes Schome Park Alpha
  • The new island/region becomes Schome Park Beta
  • The combined islands (the estate) becomes Schome Park

Option 1 costs half as much as Option 2 - so an extra $100.
Option 2 removes confusion with SPii (which is really the second design of Schome Park I!).

Question is whether or not we think the extra $100 is worth spending ...


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: KitKatKid Schomer on January 06, 2008, 09:54:56 AM
I think we should go with Option 2.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Fox Phlox on January 06, 2008, 10:18:06 AM
Yup, I think it's worth spending the money.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: KitKatKid Schomer on January 06, 2008, 10:23:45 AM
You have to think - Would you spend $100 and there be a lot less confusion.
                         or
                         - Would you keep the money and be confused a lot more!


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Baso Schomer on January 06, 2008, 11:24:02 AM
Honestly..i owuldnt spendthe money..rather spend a pound on 500 lindens and get some textures saying welcome to SP1

(btw my ideas are:

1st Island
SP1

2nd
SP2

Collective
Schome Park or refered to as SPiii or Spii (well we can keep spii.....its a nice name representing friendship with the two ppl..or so nintendo said :P)


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Kathy Schomer on January 06, 2008, 11:26:08 AM
By that logic, I reckon SPiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii would be more accurate. It represents the friendship of 127 people. Also the letters S and P. :P


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: KitKatKid Schomer on January 06, 2008, 11:33:00 AM
Now Baso has said that I agree with him.

We could spend some money on signs saying you are now in SP1 or SP2


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Trixxiee Schomer on January 06, 2008, 11:36:16 AM
Can I clarify, is it $100 or L$100 to change the name?


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: KitKatKid Schomer on January 06, 2008, 11:42:00 AM
I think its $100 but dont take my word for it :P


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Kathy Schomer on January 06, 2008, 11:45:51 AM
US$100.

Also, I'd note that the signs would be rather defeated by the client having the wrong name consistently at the top.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Sgt. Liony on January 06, 2008, 11:58:50 AM
I reckon that the oroginal island should be SPa and the second should be SPb, with the collective name of Schome Park, SPiii or 'The Island' :P But do we really need to pat an extra $100 just for the little details?


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Kathy Schomer on January 06, 2008, 12:02:14 PM
Yes. LL really charge that much for them to type into a box and click "OK"


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Miss. Vibia on January 06, 2008, 12:10:25 PM
Yes. LL really charge that much for them to type into a box and click "OK"
Quite a lot then!

I think changing the names is a good idea but it seems to cost a lot, I like the sign idea though.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Sgt. Liony on January 06, 2008, 12:17:02 PM
I know, but do we really need the little details to match up? That's what I was saying :P


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Miss. Vibia on January 06, 2008, 12:21:12 PM
Yeh.... I agree Liony.. it does seem like a lot of money or just a small detail...  ??? :-\


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Sgt. Liony on January 06, 2008, 12:23:23 PM
Exactly. Wouldn't the money be better spent on other things?


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Yankee SParker on January 06, 2008, 12:35:13 PM
Is there a poll posted on this so we can see how the votes are tallying?


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: KitKatKid Schomer on January 06, 2008, 01:10:51 PM
I don't think so Yankee. I think were just in discussions at the minute but I think a poll would be good


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: An¡mus on January 06, 2008, 01:25:02 PM
Because "Beta" is the second letter of the Greek alphabet. And "II" is somewhat confusing.

Besides, what's wrong with calling the bunch "Schome Park", "→ƒªz←"?

Nothing "Kathy Schomer", I don't see why we shouldn't call it all Schome Park, as that is what the islands are called.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Sgt. Liony on January 06, 2008, 02:22:23 PM
I think t hat everyone here is agreed that the collective name for both islkands should be 'Schome Park' - am I right?


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Marsbar9 Schomer on January 06, 2008, 02:26:18 PM
Yes, the only decision to be made now is between alpha/beta or alpha/bravo.




Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: An¡mus on January 06, 2008, 02:27:21 PM

schome park and schome park II are much simpler, easier to write and wouldn't cost a penny


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Sgt. Liony on January 06, 2008, 02:31:04 PM
yeah, but the others don'th ave to cost anything eitrher. To be honest, Schome Park is easier as a collective name, and then have alpha/beta (I love Greek more than NATO phonetics :P) for the separate regions/sims/islands/whatever they're calleds :P


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: An¡mus on January 06, 2008, 02:39:31 PM

it costs to change the names of the islands


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Sgt. Liony on January 06, 2008, 03:33:05 PM
yah but we don't have to officially change them, just call them that anyway (like I said above). $100 is a lot to pay to cover some very small details - if it was L$100 that would be fine, but not US$100.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Marsbar9 Schomer on January 06, 2008, 03:34:56 PM
It's only £50 approx. So not that expensive in terms of the overall project...


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Baso Schomer on January 06, 2008, 03:36:02 PM
No it costs to change the sim names..thats the first bit

Theres two names on the client...first is thes im name..seocnd is the region..changing the region is free..so if we cange that and stick a "SP1- The Home Of The Schomers" thats free and even more clear
The only exception to changin this would be the already made regions, like the sandbox....we would have to change that to  "SP1 Sandbox - The Place to Build Your Stuff"

Yes..we all agree t ocalling them Schome Park Collectivly i beleave..although i owuld refer to them shorthand as Spii or SPiii


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Kathy Schomer on January 06, 2008, 03:47:38 PM
Baso - what are you on about?

There are region names, parcel names and estate names. The estate is the entire collection of sims, currently two. The name is irrelevant - it's largely invisible, and can't be changed no matter what (if anyone's wondering, I believe LL have called the estate "SchomePark"). A "Region" is an individual 256x256m square, which can be divided up into up to 256 "parcels".

The client's menu/status bar reads as follows:

"Region Name (PG) - Parcel Name"

The "Parcel Name" can be changed freely, without charge, as often as you like. The "Region Name" can only be changed by paying LL and waiting a bit. "(PG)" can only be changed to "(MATURE)", and only on the MG.

I assume you're suggesting changing the parcel names, although I remain confused by what you're trying to say.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Marsbar9 Schomer on January 06, 2008, 03:52:52 PM
Calm down - no need to cause a flame war as you so love to call them Kathy.

We're not all as techy as you Kathy - so not all of us will know the differences


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Baso Schomer on January 06, 2008, 03:53:21 PM
ok sorry....
(runs in terror)
"Parcel" then...i think you get the idea..change the second name...


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Kathy Schomer on January 06, 2008, 04:08:01 PM
So are you suggesting that we should have "Schome Park (PG) - SP1 - The home of the Schomers", "Schome Park (PG) - SP1 Sandbox - The place to build stuff", etcetera?
I have no problem with that - however, "Schome Park II (PG) - SP2 - Blah" is somewhat redundant - and, of course, can be confused with SPi and SPii, which is where the discussion came from in the first place... I think.

And Mars, I have no objection with people not knowing terms, even if they are liberally sprinkled in appropriate locations throughout the client, and I've explained the difference on this forum at least once before. What I dislike is people acting as if they know things they don't.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Baso Schomer on January 06, 2008, 04:17:41 PM
are you trying to say i didnt know what i was talking about..when quite clearly i did but didnt know the correct names...for example i know how to speak french to some degree but i couldnt put the accents in the right place when writing it down....

And im only pointing uot a suggestion, to be honest im not sure people need to know which sim they are one most of the time.so long as they know were things are.... for exmaple i dont know the towns where my holiday home is bt i know were im going to... so  the SP1 bit just gives them sum idea of where hey are..then the name after that and a bit of info

Schome Park (PG) SP1 - SPTC - Schome Park's Technology Center Full of Useful Gadgets


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: KitKatKid Schomer on January 06, 2008, 04:19:58 PM
Baso do you mean like when your in the sandbox it says Schome Park (PG) - The sandbox zone.



Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Baso Schomer on January 06, 2008, 04:26:04 PM
yeah....change it so

Schome Park (PG) SP1 (so you know clearly which sim your in) - Sandbox (the name of the place) - The place where you can build


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Explo Schomer on January 06, 2008, 05:29:07 PM
Okay, I've added a poll (moderator abilities are fun :P)-note that Alpha or Beta are instituted for apparently being the most popular names, so other options such as Schome Park Bravo are possible. If you want the poll changed in any way, please don't hesitate to say.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Sgt. Liony on January 06, 2008, 06:26:24 PM
can you add an Alpha/Beta option but not officially change the names, just do like they were saying above but with SPa/SPb instead of SP1/SP2?? :P


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Explo Schomer on January 06, 2008, 06:31:27 PM
The poll, at present, is only determining what the names as Linden Labs recognises them are, so to change the names among ourselves, without asking Linden Labs to change anything, comes under the 'Leave the region names...' option, although this does indeed need clarifying.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Sgt. Liony on January 06, 2008, 06:36:21 PM
ahhh, ok.

In which case, you need a 'leave the region names but edit the info bit for different names' :P


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: An¡mus on January 06, 2008, 10:23:30 PM

This whole thing seems pointless..

If it's alpha and beta or whatever is winning, I'm not going to call them that..


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Sgt. Liony on January 06, 2008, 10:28:06 PM
Meh, as ong as you can make yourself understood :P


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Baso Schomer on January 07, 2008, 01:01:03 PM
honestly, i find this idea really pointless....(changin the sim name instead of parcel name)
Sis they call the first xbox "xbox 1" or "xbox alpha" or the first pringles "pringles alpha" no they left it, "pringles" and added original to it when the new stuff was released.....Schome Park and Schome Park 2 are eay to see the difference....besides, whydo you need to know what came first, except for history, add  a parcel name and let that describe where you are.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Fox Phlox on January 07, 2008, 01:48:38 PM
I agree it's easy to see the difference between the two islands, and that there's no particular need to know which comes first.

However, Schome isn't just Second Life - it's the forum and the wiki as well. And it's not just people who have been members for a year or so, it's newcomers as well.

Currently, there is a confusion between Schome Park II (our new island - technically a region) and SPii (the second phase of our first island/region). There is also a confusion between our entire territory (technically an estate) Schome Park, and the island previously known as SPii, Schome Park.

Now in day-to-day life that confusion is going to make little difference to most of the people posting regularly on these forums. They generally know where they are talking about. However, when we're discussing the project with outsiders, publicising it, writing up reports and articles, introducing newcomers etc it would be helpful to have clear and distinct names. That's why I'm in favour of our territory (estate) remaining Schome Park and our two islands (regions) becoming Schome Park Alpha and Schome Park Beta.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: PeterT on January 07, 2008, 02:21:20 PM
Thanks for that clarification Fox ...

Blimey - such a lot of discussion of what I thought was a very simple issue!
Given that, as Fox has pointed out, the need for a change is mainly for the benefit of folk who are unfamiliar with the project.

The key thing is that we need to be able to refer to the Estate - ie combined islands - as Schome Park without confusing that with the original region which is currently called Schome Park. I think this means that Options 1 and 4 in the poll are non-starters. That being the case then the choice is between Options 2 and 3.

I would like to draw this debate to a close - not least cos I think that there are more important issues to be resolved ... So the poll will close tonight at about 9pm.

PeterT


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: An¡mus on January 07, 2008, 02:30:20 PM
I agree it's easy to see the difference between the two islands, and that there's no particular need to know which comes first.

However, Schome isn't just Second Life - it's the forum and the wiki as well. And it's not just people who have been members for a year or so, it's newcomers as well.

Currently, there is a confusion between Schome Park II (our new island - technically a region) and SPii (the second phase of our first island/region). There is also a confusion between our entire territory (technically an estate) Schome Park, and the island previously known as SPii, Schome Park.

Now in day-to-day life that confusion is going to make little difference to most of the people posting regularly on these forums. They generally know where they are talking about. However, when we're discussing the project with outsiders, publicising it, writing up reports and articles, introducing newcomers etc it would be helpful to have clear and distinct names. That's why I'm in favour of our territory (estate) remaining Schome Park and our two islands (regions) becoming Schome Park Alpha and Schome Park Beta.

What confusion? I don't think anyone is confused and if they are it's easily explained. I think this is a far smaller "issue" than everyone's making out.

Thanks for that clarification Fox ...

Blimey - such a lot of discussion of what I thought was a very simple issue!
Given that, as Fox has pointed out, the need for a change is mainly for the benefit of folk who are unfamiliar with the project.

The key thing is that we need to be able to refer to the Estate - ie combined islands - as Schome Park without confusing that with the original region which is currently called Schome Park. I think this means that Options 1 and 4 in the poll are non-starters. That being the case then the choice is between Options 2 and 3.

I would like to draw this debate to a close - not least cos I think that there are more important issues to be resolved ... So the poll will close tonight at about 9pm.

PeterT

here here to this debate being closed, there are far more important things to be resolved
I haven't viewed the poll for a while, I'm betting alpha and beta are way out front so my voice won't be heard, but if there is a very serious confusion (as it seems to be made out as) between the collective and schome park then why not just change 'schome park' to 'schome park I'?


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Sgt. Liony on January 07, 2008, 02:36:53 PM
because it's still quite similar, more so than Alpha or Beta.

You guys are gonna kill mec for this, but another possible solution wiuld be Island 1 and Island 2?


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: An¡mus on January 07, 2008, 02:40:16 PM

Seeing as the poll is closing today, I'd like to appeal for people who voted for 'Leave the region names as Schome Park and Schome Park II' or 'Leave the region names, but change parcel names'  to vote for 'Change to Schome Park I and Schome Park II' if you are against alpha and beta, this would result in a tie.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Sgt. Liony on January 07, 2008, 02:42:20 PM
... or you could change it to 'leave the region names but change the parcel names' *flutters eyelashes* :P


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Dan on January 07, 2008, 03:01:04 PM
Seeing as the poll is closing today, I'd like to appeal for people who voted for 'Leave the region names as Schome Park and Schome Park II' or 'Leave the region names, but change parcel names'  to vote for 'Change to Schome Park I and Schome Park II' if you are against alpha and beta, this would result in a tie.

I'm not entirely sure that pushing in the direction of a tie helps to move things forward but hey ho.  I would however encourage everyone to consider the options and register a vote whatever it may be.  Our community is growing larger yet the number of individuals voting remains quite small.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Topper Schomer on January 07, 2008, 05:15:28 PM
Just to say some confusion can be seen with greek letters so I would encourge peeps to change vote (bais I know).

Topper


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: An¡mus on January 07, 2008, 05:17:15 PM

Who is gonna keep up calling the sims bravo and alpha?


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Explo Schomer on January 07, 2008, 05:18:36 PM
I haven't voted, mainly because I truly don't feel strongly either way-I can see the advantages of each option and none gains the advantage in my opinion.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: An¡mus on January 07, 2008, 05:41:08 PM

I'm betting 'alpha' and 'beta' will eventually become 'a' and 'b' rendering all this pointless and so we may as well stick with I and II


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Explo Schomer on January 07, 2008, 06:12:37 PM
Ah, but it should be, as I believe Kathy pointed out earlier, a and ß (argh-my computer won't let me use the alpha symbol!).


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Decimus Schomer on January 07, 2008, 06:16:14 PM
Faz - if we ever get a third sim, it'll still make a difference - it's either 'c' (for the Alpha, Bravo, etc. system) or 'y' (for the α, β, γ, etc. system)


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: PeterT on January 07, 2008, 08:54:18 PM
Looks like the alpha beta crowd are in the majority.  :(

Now I know why I didn't plan to have a poll on this one!  ;)
(There are some things that really shouldn't be decided by a majority vote!  ::) :P )

I will contact LL and try to get this sorted out asap.

PeterT


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Explo Schomer on January 07, 2008, 08:56:43 PM
I'm afraid I'm to blame for putting a poll in. On the bright side, at least we'll stop arguing over the name now, won't we?


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: PeterT on January 07, 2008, 09:00:35 PM
I'm afraid I'm to blame for putting a poll in. On the bright side, at least we'll stop arguing over the name now, won't we?

 lol I almost took it out when it appeared - cos I genuinely believe some things are not best sorted democratically - well why else would I be a benign dictator - and we would have got to a decision just as rapidly I can assure you!  ;)
But having let it run then I also think I have to stick with the majority view.

Funnily enough the one decision that I really regret was having staff called SParkers and students called Schomers. Cos I now struggle with talking about SParkers (meaning all members of the Schome Park community) - which means I tend to talk about students and staff - which reinforces that distinction.  :(

Ah well - you live and learn.  :)


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Topper Schomer on January 07, 2008, 09:02:37 PM
I personally think that it would be easyier to rename it Schome park I and II

But then i am not in the majority although it was close

Topper


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Baso Schomer on January 07, 2008, 10:13:32 PM
honestly, i really think we should of left it, honestly  i hat the names alpha and beta (hoenstly, i hate usingterms like them) and i wont use them, promise i wont, unless i must. Im still going to call them SP1 and SP2, simply as tha tis how i refer to them and know them.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Marsbar9 Schomer on January 08, 2008, 05:36:26 PM
Well that's kind of selfish - you're reinforcing the confusion for new people we've just sorted out... :-\


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Sgt. Liony on January 08, 2008, 05:57:53 PM
Yeah ... *agrees*


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: An¡mus on January 08, 2008, 08:25:52 PM
honestly, i really think we should of left it, honestly  i hat the names alpha and beta (hoenstly, i hate usingterms like them) and i wont use them, promise i wont, unless i must. Im still going to call them SP1 and SP2, simply as tha tis how i refer to them and know them.

Wooo, go minority! lol

1 and 2 for life!


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Baso Schomer on January 09, 2008, 12:51:39 PM
honestly, theres nothing rong wit hcalling them what you want, should i support gordon brown cos the majority do? when i actually dont like some of the things hes for...


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Explo Schomer on January 09, 2008, 04:33:46 PM
The point is that this is a democracy-even if you don't personally support the government that was elected, you have to follow what they implement in terms of the law. You don't have to agree with the names, but that does not change them from being what they have been voted to be, and so you should use them, to make it clear to other people. It is indeed the majority oppressing the majority, and that is one of the problems of a democracy, but it is far preferable to the minority oppressing the majority.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Baso Schomer on January 09, 2008, 05:09:26 PM
look ,im not going to cause an argument because that was not my intention, im just saying i will use that name, i don't like it. I will accept other might, i will accept that is the official name, but i will not use it.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: XxDaisyLouxX Schomer on January 09, 2008, 05:22:05 PM
It would be easier if you called them the real names in your posts..but anyhooo it's your decision :)


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: An¡mus on January 09, 2008, 05:25:51 PM

Baso, we should call them a and b or aplha and beta where people need to know what we are on about, who don't. Other than that I'm sticking with the proper/non proper now? names


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Baso Schomer on January 09, 2008, 05:30:32 PM
agreed :D


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Topper Schomer on January 09, 2008, 06:10:21 PM
I have to say I'm agreeing with faz here SP 1 and 2 is easier to type and i understand which ones which so in conversation i will probably use those but for PP aplications use those names.

Topper


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Kathy Schomer on January 09, 2008, 06:11:50 PM
SPa should actually be easier to type than SP1 - your left hand doesn't need to move. :P

SPb and SP2 are roughly equal.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: An¡mus on January 09, 2008, 06:13:18 PM

you have a strange mind.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Kathy Schomer on January 09, 2008, 06:30:19 PM
I've been told that before. :P


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Explo Schomer on January 09, 2008, 07:37:19 PM
I touch type very differently to the more orthodox ways, and hideously wastefully at that, but I find SPa and SPb easier as I don't have to move my fingers up. Besides, surely it is worth any slight difficulty in making it a lot less confusing?


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Topper Schomer on January 09, 2008, 07:39:50 PM
I do actually find it hard to understand that sytem. Not beacaues its to comlicated just can get my head round it. Havng said that i will probably get my head round it after a couple of decent nights sleep

Topper


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: PeterT on January 10, 2008, 08:03:57 PM

you have a strange mind.

fascinating perhaps rather than strange?  ;)


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: An¡mus on January 11, 2008, 06:53:33 PM

Not really, it's not particularly fascinating when someone thinks about that stuff.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Explo Schomer on January 12, 2008, 12:32:29 PM
I get the idea that was a 'subtle' hint, Faz, rather than a genuine question...


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Sgt. Liony on January 12, 2008, 03:26:55 PM
Ya. Although I think that that hint was a little too PC, Ranger? :P (no offence)


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: An¡mus on January 12, 2008, 03:30:10 PM

I know, I choose to reply to subtle hints genuinely sometimes, the effect is both that I can say my opinion, whilst annoying the hinter and making them think at the same time.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: PeterT on January 12, 2008, 06:31:26 PM

I know, I choose to reply to subtle hints genuinely sometimes, the effect is both that I can say my opinion, whilst annoying the hinter and making them think at the same time.

But would you like the think that they thought I wonder?  >:D :P  ;)


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: An¡mus on January 13, 2008, 01:21:28 PM
If I understand your rather confusing grammar then yes whether they are frustrated or wondering if i have symptoms of autism its all good :)


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Kathy Schomer on January 13, 2008, 01:23:47 PM
I'm just going to point out that I'm hopelessly confused by this point.


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Marsbar9 Schomer on January 13, 2008, 01:32:17 PM
Me too - I read Peter's post several times earlier cos it didn't make sense, then realised I must have missed something further in the thread  ::)


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Sgt. Liony on January 13, 2008, 02:33:17 PM
'would you like the think that they thought, I wonder?'

I took that to mean 'would you like (i.e understand, agree with) the thought that they had thought?'


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Marsbar9 Schomer on January 13, 2008, 02:35:30 PM
That makes a bit more sense lol


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Kathy Schomer on January 13, 2008, 02:39:58 PM
I worked out Peter's post eventually. Faz's post made equally little sense. I think it was missing an important bit of punctuation/word or something. Still no idea what it means. >.>

(I'm not very good at reading text with incorrect punctuation)


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: PeterT on January 14, 2008, 06:25:26 AM
I worked out Peter's post eventually. Faz's post made equally little sense. I think it was missing an important bit of punctuation/word or something. Still no idea what it means. >.>

(I'm not very good at reading text with incorrect punctuation)

I wouldn't worry about it!  >:D
Just happy banter ...
Maybe time to lock this topic as the decision has been made ...


Title: Re: What shall we call the new combined island?
Post by: Fox Phlox on January 14, 2008, 12:24:39 PM
Locked.